FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS

"When I first started running, I was so embarrassed, I'd walk when cars passed me. I'd pretend I was looking at the flowers."

Joan Benoit Samuelson
Olympic Marathon Winner

Don't be afraid to ask! If your question isn't here, just send us an e-mail at racedirector@brazenracing.com.

How long is the race?

About 13.7 miles.

If there are any park-mandated changes to the course,it could end up a little bit more or less than the advertised distance.

When does the race start?

First wave is at 8:00am. See Course Info page for wave start times.

What is a handicap? Is that bad?

Not at all! A handicap race simply means that start times are staggered dependent on your age and sex. The idea is to start everyone at different times based on their overall assumed pace so that participants finish at about the same time.

I am a very slow runner. Am I going to be out of place?

You won't be out of place at all. You will need to reach the cut-off times listed here to be an official finisher, but these are very achievable for most participants.

Is there a time limit?

All runners must finish the course by 2:00 pm.

Are there cutoff times?

Yes, they are listed here.

Can I wear headphones? Can I use trekking poles?

No. As covered here, the Double Dipsea is already treacherous a race run primarily on narrow trails and almost always with people passing from in front and behind.

The unique starting times and the terrain demand that all runners remain vigilant at all times and allow all possible space for other participants to pass by.

What happens if I do wear headphones or use trekking poles?

If we receive photographic evidence of any participant violating these rules, we will not have a choice but to disqualify them and not allow them to participate in future Double Dipsea races.

Can I register on the day of the race?

No, this race will sell out before then.

Do you offer a group discount? Frequent runner discount? Family discount? Coupon? Special break for running more than one race?

We do not.

There are many different ways for pricing race entry fees. Although it can sometimes make runners feel like they are getting a special deal, we do not use the method of offering a price higher than necessary to support the race, then offering discounts to only those who are lucky enough to find a coupon. We believe that such a policy unfairly penalizes those who (for whatever reason) do not find out about and utilize the coupon or discount.

Our prices are arranged so that every runner automatically gets the group discount, because they are in fact part of the large group running that race. Almost all of our races are composed of several hundred runners (sometimes well over a thousand) and it is because of these numbers that we can offer a high quality experience while still charging an entry fee well below what you might expect or find at comparable events elsewhere.

We do offer a discount to those who sign up early, since early sign-ups allow us to plan better and lower the overall costs of the race. Similarly, we include an additional charge for those who sign up late, since the accomodation of race entries in the last two weeks before a race increases the per-runner cost.

The other exception for discounts is for those who volunteer at one race and then partipate at a later one. Those volunteers receive a discounted (and sometimes free) race entry.

Will there be age group awards?

Yes, we will have results and awards for age group finishers in 5 year divisions (see the shirts and awards page). If you do not receive your age group medal on race day, you will be given an opportunity to mail in a self-addressed, stamped envelope and get this by mail. Details will be included in the pre-race and post-race e-mails.

When/where do I pick up my bib/race packet?

Early bib/shirt pick-up will be available at San Francisco Running Company in Mill Valley on June 17th (10:30 - 7:00), June 18th (10:30 - 7:00) and June 19th (10:30 - 3:00). If you cannot make it to any of those days, you will be able to get your bib on race moring. Those picking up on race morning should plan to arrive an extra 10-15 minutes earlier, just in case of any lines.

Will there be somewhere to leave my warm-up clothes?

Yes, there will be a sweat-check area and these will be checked in and watched over by a volunteer. Bags for storing your sweats will be available if you do not bring your own. Please do not leave valuables in your sweat bags -- we cannot be responsible for these items.

I don't care about my time and would like to start early.
I've always started early.
I need the extra time, so I just go off on my own in the morning.
Can I do that this year?

Throughout the history of the Double Dipsea, there have been people who have started early and have been left off the results. These participants have been looking to tackle the course, but felt they needed the extra time to get it done. This has sometimes been done with people going off on their own and not telling anyone, sometimes with a wink and a nod from a race official. It's our goal to now better control this practice and minimize any negative effects on the handicapped ("regular") Double Dipsea runners.

For 2015, if a person wishes to start early, they will be allowed to do it with the following conditions:

1) They must e-mail racedirector@brazenracing.com at least 3 weeks before the race to be on the list to do this.

2) No results will be published for anyone starting early (they will still receive their shirt, coaster, etc.). Only those starting at their assigned handicapped start time will receive official times.

3) Anyone starting early will be given a time (most likely between 6 and 7 am) during which they will be allowed to start. While we expect this to be a very small group, we will nevertheless spread their starting times out over an hour to help prevent any large groups travelling together before the regular race begins.

4) Anyone starting early will not be allowed to return (on their way back) through the Cardiac Aid Station until the first 10 regular runners have passed.

We expect this to be a very small number of people and encourage all runners to train hard and be ready to start with their handicapped start time.

Why would you allow someone to start early? Why not just clamp down and require everybody start with their mandated handicapped time?

We are going with this plan for 2015 because:

a) Walt Stack, the DSE Runners, the Double Dipsea and Brazen Racing have all had a long-term common value of welcoming everybody regardless of their age, size or running ability. This is likely the source of the many exceptions in the past.

b) Whether we declare a prohibition or not, we suspect the practice will continue and, for safety reasons, we want to know about anyone who is out on the course.

c) We believe that it can be managed with minimal impact.

Can my dog run with me during the race?

Unfortunately no. As much as we love dogs and running with our own, not everyone is comfortable being around dogs (even if leashed) and for reasons of safety (for those with two legs and four) race participants are not allowed to bring their dogs along for the race.

Will the race be cancelled if it rains or is very hot?

No. Unless there is an Act of God that results in the permitting agencies mandating cancellation, the race will be held, rain or shine. In the event of extreme weather conditions or trail closures, the course could be modified.

Do you issue refunds?

No. Putting on a race can be a very expensive (and financially risky) endeavor. To a small extent, that risk gets shared by all who enter since injuries, emergencies and plain old "life happening" can potentially ruin plans for participation.

Because the majority of the funds collected have been spent long before the race occurs, we do not issue refunds or offer deferrals. Anyone contacting us by e-mail and cancelling 30 days before race day will be eligible for 50% race credit to a future Brazen Racing event.



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